| Thu, Feb 24 2011 12:36pm EST 1 |

Will Skeat
2 Posts
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“Flogton” is a dumbed-down perversion of the game of golf. Learn
the game correctly, play the game correctly. Still learning, or
just plain not very good at the game? Play easier courses, play
nine holes. Slicing or hooking the ball? Use low spin balls like
the DT SoLo, take a lesson, improve your skills - work at
the game. There is a word for tricking out your clubs with plastic
faces or Vaseline to reduce spin from mis-hits – cheating. Remember
the Kenny Mayne commercial for the Top-Fite Gamer golf ball? The
one where he is asking this guy questions out on the course to see
if he was a “gamer”?
Kenny: “Winter rules?”
Golfer: “Cheating.”
Kenny: “Gimmes?”
Golfer: “Make the putt!”
Kenny starts to hand the guy a Gamer, then hesistates and asks one
last question:
Kenny: “Mulligans?”
Golfer: [Gives Kenny a dirty look]
Kenny hands the Golfer a Gamer, then turns to look off-camera and
says, “We’ve got our guy!”
The satisfaction comes from improving your skills and lowering your
score – not from lowering the standards of the game. Still can’t
hack it? Take up tennis.
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| Sun, Feb 27 2011 10:59am EST 2 |

Duane Peterson
15 Posts
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Spoken like a jaded traditionalist! With the standard slow,
difficult & expensive golf game fast losing appeal and golfers,
something has to be done to attract more to the game. Conceived in
an era of excess, old style golf methods don't work in the new
cultural era of quick, affordable and less frustrating.
Pull your head out of the sand trap and look around at all the big
courses now struggling to stay alive, because of the lack of
golfers....and likely, with an attitude like yours, to get worse.
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| Sat, Mar 5 2011 02:07pm EST 3 |

Marty Miguel
2 Posts
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Heard this discussed on "Hooked on Golf" this morning and I am
incredibly disappointed in Mitch and John for even suggesting or
promoting that this is a viable concept. The comment by Duane
Peterson is typical of todays world. If it's not quick and less
frustrating, I won't even try. Stick to your smart phone, your
laptop and your internet world and stay away from SPORTS! What's
next? An 8' high basket with a 3' diameter rim. Wow, you could be
Michael Jordan with no skill at all! Mulligans on every hole, tee
it up in the fairway, a 6' bump????? Don't put these people in
front of me or they may find a titleist from a punched 2-iron
lodged up their ***!!!!
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| Sun, Mar 6 2011 02:27pm EST 4 |

Pat Gallagher
6 Posts
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Will and Marty, thanks for taking the time to post your comments.
We also love golf, but are concerned with the lack of growth in the
game. We aren't alone. Many course owners and equipment companies,
with major investments in golf are also looking for solutions as we
are learning since introducing this idea in late January. We are
finding that we may have touch an exposed nerve in golf, which
isn't a surprise.
The facts are that for every person coming into the game, two are
leaving. The current growth initiatives like First Tee,
PlayGolfAmerica, Golf 20/20 are trying, but they aren't making a
noticeable difference. Of the 16,000 golf courses in the US,
about 15% may be gone this year. Waiting lists at many private
clubs have shrunk or evaporated.....and it isn't just the
economy. Less than 20% of all golfers today post a handicap. If
you are interested in seeing more stats, check out the power
point on the landing page.
So, what we are advocating is not a change to the game you play
at all, but a secondary, more playable, yet competitive game.
Frankly, millions are actually playing their own versions of this
now. We think that both can live comfortably on golf courses with
rules and standards. We also firmly believe that this will help
bring new people to the game, many will graduate to your game,
but some won't. It will also give many who just don't play very
much a reason to come back and will keep players in the game as
their skills diminish, rather than leaving the sport.
For those who love empty golf courses, this may not be good news.
For those who love the game and want more people to enjoy it
respectfully, it is great news.
Thanks again for posting and for your interest...Pat Gallagher
CEO, AGA
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| Fri, Mar 18 2011 09:16am EDT 5 |

Duane Peterson
15 Posts
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Hey, many of us have moved on from the old "big course" mentality,
to enjoyable & quick-play Hybrid golf several years ago and
havn't looked back since, except to wonder why so many golfers
continue to beat themselves up playing the standard golf game. It's
like insanity, where you keep repeating the same thing
over & over again expecting a different outcome! Our
recommendation is to stop complaining about the time, cost &
difficulty issues and switch to quick-play alternative golf. You
might actually have FUN!
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| Tue, Apr 12 2011 09:52am EDT 6 |

Clay Hundley
3 Posts
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Is it so bad for golfers to actually want to play the GAME, not
have to dig into their kids college funds to do so and to smile and
have a good time while on the course...and at the same time speed
up play. Sorry...just don't see the downside of Flogton.
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| Tue, Apr 12 2011 02:01pm EDT 7 |

Clay Hundley
3 Posts
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Furthermore, no one is saying not to get better. If you have the
time and the money to do what is necessary to improve then by all
means do so...you will certainly enjoy the game more with more
satisfaction. In the mean time, do what is necessary to have fun
and to stay on the course.
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| Thu, Apr 14 2011 10:20am EDT 8 |

Duane Peterson
15 Posts
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We've taken a somewhat different approach to enjoyable golf, by
minimizing the game & playing dynamics to an acceptable 60%
distance, and maximizing the enjoyment factors of quick, affordable
& less frustrating golf. We see the upcoming sustainability
factors of water & chemical restriction & eco-land-use
dictating a new trend toward shorter tradtional golf courses and
quicker play, which seems to be working well and growing. It
provides the same traditional game in a Condensed and EZ play
form, perfect for the time oriented and cost minded modern
culture. Now available, 18 holes of championship golf in 2 to 3
hours on walkable & enjoyable courses!
Our Hybrid golf ball, designed for the average golfer, is now used
at over 500 North American courses & ranges and has seen growth
in several emerging foreign markets.
More people today just want a convenient & enjoyable golfing
experience and that's what we are providing.
Anyway, who said golf has to be so frustrating, long and
expensive....not us!
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| Tue, Apr 19 2011 10:09pm EDT 9 |

Chuck Peterson
2 Posts
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I don't see why there can't be an easier version of the golf game.
After all, we have fast pitch and slow pitch softball which are
easier versions of baseball. We have flag football which is an
easier version of football. We have pick-up basketball,
three-on-three basketball, half-court basketball, etc. which are
easier versions of basketball. All were designed for those who
don't have the skills or physical abilities to compete in the main
sport but still want to play.
I ask the question, "What percent of golfers go out every time and
play completely by USGA rules?" No gimmes, no mulligans, no
improving lies, Etc.? I dare say 70 to 80% deliberately break the
rules in some way or other. Certainly that's true of us
recreational players.
Why not have a game like flogton for us other golfers! I'm 70 years
old now and still play slow-pitch softball and love it. Let me play
flogton in peace, and I love it.
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| Wed, Apr 20 2011 08:00am EDT 10 |

Duane Peterson
15 Posts
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You wouldn't use a baseball on a softball field...would you? It's
out of scale... the ball goes to far, reducing the fun and
challenge... it's the same thing with the standard golf ball and
shorter golf courses.
Hybrid Golf is the "softball" version of the traditional golf game,
designed for quick and less frustrating play on shorter courses!
The Hybrid golf ball looks and plays like a standard golf ball, but
has been designed with DTW (distance-to-weight) playing dynamics
(meets USGA Standards), providing an enhanced "big course
experience" on shorter courses. Seniors love it!
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| Tue, May 10 2011 12:32pm EDT 11 |

joe brown
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Indeed most rounds played today are certainly not played by USGA
rules entirely. Gimmies on tap in putts are probably the rule in
most places. With my foursome playing on slow crowded public
courses, we have invented the "Lost in Plain Sight Rule" for the
ball that was seen landing in the rough or even fairway, no where
near OB or a hazard, and still cannot be found. The pros would have
a cadre of assistants out there flagging their ball. So we allow a
free drop at the site we're it was thought to have landed, penalty
free. This rule is especially helpful in the fall given the autumn
leaves littering the ground. Likewise, on shots OB, we search the
course, and even the OB area for a short while, but if we don't
find the ball we drop at the point where it went OB, and incur a 2
stroke penalty obviating the need to hit provisional balls or
return to the tee. These rules speed up play immeasurably.
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